http://www.protocopy.com/osgui.html The above is a good read. I've heard both the GNOME and KDE camps say they mimic MS GUI to easy the transition from MS to Linux. The above article makes a great statement, IMHO: "... If the product is better, it does not matter how different it is. That's why many of us threw out hundreds of dollars of records and diamond needles the day CD's came out. ... " -- Bob Tanner <tanner at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org, Minnesota, Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 http://www.tcwug.org, Minnesota, Wireless | Coding isn't a crime. Key fingerprint = AB15 0BDF BCDE 4369 5B42 1973 7CF1 A709 2CC1 B288