how dare you bring reasonable points into this discussion? when last we saw our hero (Saturday, Jul 27, 2002), Daniel Churchill was madly tapping out: > { snipped - misc previous correspondence - all of it quite good } > Someday, if the Linux snobs of the world don't wake up and consider > that Microsoft might be able to address its issues effectively in > future releases, they are going to find themselves wondering how > Windows got so good while Linux went nowhere. Fortunately (and > unfortunately in the sense that the snobs of the Linux world will > continue to delude themselves) Linux is not likely to fall behind, > because not all of the Linux community has placed themselves in a > Linux bubble and isolated themselves from everything Windows. it bears pointing out that MS has made a very public bruhaha regarding their newfound commitment to software stability and improvements in security. the last time they did this they had a second rate web browser and nary a clue regarding what folks wanted from a server application perspective. anyone care to objectively notice that they have the browser market dominated and that within corporations their tools are more often than not the platform of choice for much development? do folks really think that they won't fix many of their more obvious gaffes and retain the mindshare of corporate IT departments the world over? if the kids that expended their efforts calling folks dumbass, and cheerleading such activities, were to channel that energy into effective evangelism it might leave corporations with a better taste in their mouths regarding linux and the other free OSs as well as the open source development model in general. instead, in many cases, they seem to associate it with whiny name-calling kids with questionable personal hygiene. compare that with their polished MS rep and their ability to schmooze the parties with the pocketbook and you'll get a taste of how things eventually end up working out. -- steve ulrich sulrich at botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC