<snip> I think what Ben was trying to say is having to deal with all the library dependencies for one or two apps is a pain in the ass. I agree. When downloading Opera I always get the statically linked version that is not dependent on any libraries even though the install is larger. Why? I got all mixed up with library versions a couple of years ago when trying to do a simple upgrade (KDE I think). I got it all futzed up so bad I walked away from Linux for two years. So yes, sometimes it is easier to download one big file than a boatload o' little ones. So to resume what you are saying is that it's easier do download a big file than a lot of small files. (JDK/JRE vs Gnome libraries). ??? florin -- "If it's not broken, let's fix it till it is." 41A9 2BDE 8E11 F1C5 87A6 03EE 34B3 E075 3B90 DFE4