If you haven't seen yet, Mandrake 8.1 RC1 has been released. Many of the mirrors are currently slow, but if someone else wants to mirror it, I can upload my copy (2 iso's). It supports XFS, JFS, ReiserFS, and ext3 for journaling filesystems. KDE 2.2.1, Gnome 1.4, kernel 2.4.8 with a bunch of custom mods for the journaling stuff, DevFS (which comes with the "dynamic" package which will add icons to your desktop when you insert a floppy, cd, or zip disk), and a bunch of other fun stuff. Mandrake 8.0 would have been a good release, but they were so busy trying to get it out the door, they missed a ton of bugs in it. From the looks of it, 8.1 won't suffer from this as they've had a frequent beta release cycle (~1 per week), and many many bugs have been fixed during the beta period. If you haven't tried mandrake before, now is the time to check it out. A lot of people complain that Mandrake is for the beginner and not for experienced linux users. It's true that it's easy to install and use (and it's pretty), but it come with plenty of tools and is probably more powerful than many other out of the box distributions. I particularly like that when I install it, I don't have to comb the net looking for the tools I frequently use because they are installed by default. Jay