You could always go to Ebay, you can find some good LapTops there for
<$1000. buy with caution though, check the ratings. i got a laptop there
about eight months ago and the harddisk failed about five months later...

the laptops almost always come with windows, but they they also have a note
saying that you should remove windows if you do not have a license...(as
people really do that!!!)

 -munir

On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, David Smeeton wrote:

> I'm looking around for options in terms of buying a notebook without
> paying the Microsoft tax.  I've run into the following difficulties:
> 	* VA Linux got out of the hardware business
> 	* Penguin Computing doesn't have any notebooks
> 	* TuxTops dropped its business to QLITech (which now has only two
> ~$1650 models)
> 	* Dell says they can't do it
> 	* Gateway (Ha!) nevermind
> 	* IBM supposedly has two models with Caldera preinstalled, but their
> online sales site doesn't match the information on their linux
> pages, and I'm not sure I want to pay that much
> 	* Compaq doesn't sell any laptops with Linux
>
> Anyway, you get the idea.  I've even looked at Apples, but they're
> simply too expensive.  Any ideas where I can get a laptop without
> Windows?  Ideally Linux would be preinstalled, but that's not a
> requirement.  Mainly I'm looking for cheap (the closer to the $1000
> mark, the better) and good battery life (I'll spring for the heavy
> duty batteries if they're available)...and naturally hardware support
> for Linux is a good thing.
>
> Am I overlooking any obvious options?  Are there any local shops that
> can do this?  Am I doomed to pay MS for the privilege of having a
> notebook?
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
> David
>
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