Check out the new Opera 5.05 Technology Preview 1. They've added in support for Netscape plugins, including Acrobat Reader, Flash, Java etc. Also, some sites that were previously broken (www.pricewatch.com for example) now work. http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/20010814.html Download link is near the bottom of the page. Once you have Flash working (with sound) you can go to http://come.to/hatten and click on the pic of the guy in the hat with all the fingers pointing at him. Hatten ar din! -.bill.layer.- -.those who are talking don't know, and those who know aren't talking.- -.frogtown.- -.minnesota.- -.u.s.a.-