You don't need an actual Dvorak keyboard or layout. You can just set up the software to do the QWERTY<-->DVORAK translation for you. The downside is that you will not be able to see where the dvorak keys are by looking at the keyboard. On the plus side, no one else will (successfully) use your PC without asking! (Actually, kde has a keyboard map switcher applet that works pretty well at switching between the two mappings). But, the initial confusion will usually deter most activities... ;-) I started with Dvorak, but was overly annoyed at having to relearn vi key sequences. What little sense vi keyboard commands make are utterly lost when your hjkl keys are no longer next to each other. I am sure there are probably keyboard mappings for vi/dvorak - but I didn't find any at the time. My frustration was that one of the machines I used did not support DVORAK translation, so I ended up switching back and forth multiple times per day. Now that all of my boxes are NT or Linux (and support software dvorak), I could probably try again. I was up to about 20 WPM, and boy, dvorak sure is confortable. That's the only way I can describe it. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- All of the problems associated with Intellectual property can easily be resolved by keeping those who believe in it on a strict diet of Intellectual bread and water. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ______ _ __ "If you don't have the freedom to use what you / ' ) ) own - then you do not own anything." / o ______ / / _ . . No apologies to Jack Valenti or the MPAA / <_/ / / < / (_</_(_/_ -- tneu at visi.com / http://www.visi.com/~tneu -- On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Bill Layer wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chester A. Larson > > To: tclug-list at mn-linux.org > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 5:57 PM > > Subject: [TCLUG] Dvorak KB > > > > > > Has it been ported to Linux? If it has where do I can find a KB? > > Is it possible to just pull & re-arrange keycaps from a QWERTY kb and make > a Dvorak kb? > > > > > -.bill.layer.- > > -.those who are talking don't know, and those who know aren't talking.- > > -.frogtown.- -.minnesota.- -.u.s.a.- > _______________________________________________ > tclug-list mailing list > tclug-list at mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-list >