I just built a Duron 700 system on the Abit KT-7 RAID, and so far, it's been a very pleasant experience. I bought my MB / CPU / fan from Multiwave (www.mwave.com) after finding them on pricewatch.com. It was the first time I have dealt with Multiwave, but they really came through. I did a lot of checking at www.resellerratings.com, and boy do you need to be careful who you deal with on the net. In the end, I saved maybe $50 over Tran on the whole deal, but waited a week for the parts. The heatsink / fan provided by Multiwave is in the 'adequate' category - I would have preferred the Global Win or Alpha cooler, but I got a fair deal. On Monday 11 December 2000 23:06, you wrote: > Most people I know have been buying AMD Thunderbirds and Abit KT7-RAID > boards and are very happy with them. http://www.mwave.com is probably > cheaper on the board and chip combos, but Tran is much better on memory, > and you don't have to pay shipping. I've owned one Tyan board, and I would never buy another - their tech support is dreadful, and there were several quality control issues on my board. Also, FWIW, the Tyan board will *not* run a CPU overclocked. All the settings are there, but I can never get it to go even a hair over spec. This might be the fault of the K6-2 cpus, but hard to say. I have no problems with FIC, I'm curious why Yaron is down on them. Generally, I find FIC to be a decent, versatile MB at a fair price. I would suggest building up your own system.. it's not that difficult, and very instructive. -- Bill Layer Sales Technician <b.layer at vikingelectronics.com>