From haircut at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 08:15:11 2009
From: haircut at gmail.com (Adam Monsen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:15:11 -0500
Subject: [tclug-devel] C++ IDEs
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Yesterday, John Gateley wrote:
> What's the best IDE for linux?

I'd recommend the Eclipse CDT. The CDT has its warts like any other
software, but it is feature rich and very mature. It can't hurt that it
is Open Source Software. Eclipse has been under heavy development for
many years.

I use Vim for all text editing tasks, but I really like Eclipse for
reliable code completion (aka "intellisense") and the ability to quickly
navigate and refactor large software projects. It's worth riding the
learning curve when you end up with such an easy way to read and
maintain code.

> Anyone using these in their daily work? Any comments?

I don't use the Eclipse CDT for my daily work, only for a few projects
for school. It worked quite well last time I tried it, although I
eventually gave up on the "managed" build and used hand-written
makefiles instead. Fortunately, the CDT is quite flexible when it comes
to building, so using your own makefiles is easy.

I *do* use Eclipse for daily Java development. Navigation, code
completion, refactoring, SCM integration, debugging, etc. work similarly
to the CDT.

I'm not really sure what if anything is offtopic for the TCLUG list, but
shall we migrate this topic to the devel list?
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From ih8censorship at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 13:05:07 2009
From: ih8censorship at gmail.com (Kenny Lyons)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:05:07 -0500
Subject: [tclug-devel] tclug-devel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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As far as C++ IDE's go, I like Code::Blocks. It's a small download
compared to Eclipse,which is a good thing since I'm limited to a dial
up connection lately, and it works on Windows and Linux which comes in
handy for the stuff I work on too. It has also been developed steadily
over the past few years, though I would assume not as heavily as
Eclipse. You should check it out http://www.codeblocks.org/

Another good place to ask about IDE's (or anything C++ related) would
be at http://www.cpplc.net/forum

As for using Vim, This is all I have to say.
http://xkcd.com/378/

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> Yesterday, John Gateley wrote:
>> What's the best IDE for linux?
>
> I'd recommend the Eclipse CDT. The CDT has its warts like any other
> software, but it is feature rich and very mature. It can't hurt that it
> is Open Source Software. Eclipse has been under heavy development for
> many years.
>
> I use Vim for all text editing tasks, but I really like Eclipse for
> reliable code completion (aka "intellisense") and the ability to quickly
> navigate and refactor large software projects. It's worth riding the
> learning curve when you end up with such an easy way to read and
> maintain code.
>
>> Anyone using these in their daily work? Any comments?
>
> I don't use the Eclipse CDT for my daily work, only for a few projects
> for school. It worked quite well last time I tried it, although I
> eventually gave up on the "managed" build and used hand-written
> makefiles instead. Fortunately, the CDT is quite flexible when it comes
> to building, so using your own makefiles is easy.
>
> I *do* use Eclipse for daily Java development. Navigation, code
> completion, refactoring, SCM integration, debugging, etc. work similarly
> to the CDT.
>
> I'm not really sure what if anything is offtopic for the TCLUG list, but
> shall we migrate this topic to the devel list?
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From hopper at omnifarious.org  Tue Apr 14 08:15:52 2009
From: hopper at omnifarious.org (Eric M. Hopper)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:15:52 -0700
Subject: [tclug-devel] tclug-devel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:05 -0500, Kenny Lyons wrote:
> As far as C++ IDE's go, I like Code::Blocks. It's a small download
> compared to Eclipse,which is a good thing since I'm limited to a dial
> up connection lately, and it works on Windows and Linux which comes in
> handy for the stuff I work on too. It has also been developed steadily
> over the past few years, though I would assume not as heavily as
> Eclipse. You should check it out http://www.codeblocks.org/
> 
> Another good place to ask about IDE's (or anything C++ related) would
> be at http://www.cpplc.net/forum

I would agree that Code::Blocks is a good C++ IDE.  I have made attempts
to use Eclipse and found it to be huge, have a steep learning curve, and
to be the sort of IDE that sucked you into its world and never let you
go.

I fired up Code::Blocks, pointed it at a whole bunch of source code, had
it churn away for awhile and then had some very nice stuff for doing
code archeology.  I didn't have to use it to build my software, or even
edit anything.  I could just use the nice class browser to figure some
things out.

-- 
A word is nothing more or less than the series of historical
connotations given to it. That's HOW we derive meaning, and to claim
that there is an arbitrary meaning of words above and beyond the way
people use them is a blatant misunderstanding of the nature of language.
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-- Eric Hopper (hopper at omnifarious.org http://www.omnifarious.org/~hopper)--
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