From Samtron at loading-zone.net Thu Oct 9 13:44:01 2003 From: Samtron at loading-zone.net (Samtron@loading-zone.net) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Legal XBOX Linux! Message-ID: <1065725194.3f85ad0ac4401@webmail.loading-zone.net> Hello, My name is Michael Demopoulos and I am a Linux Lover to the core. I am also an avid gamer. I got Linux running on my modded XBOX but last night I took a bootable Linux disk and encoded it to XBOX game type and I now have a working bootable XBOX Linux that is 100% LEGAL and does not void the warranty of the XBOX. It does not need a MOD chip or any physical changes. I am considering selling this online (Linux is free but the cost of the CD-RW and shipping only) I also wanted a place to post how I did this online or have a test group to test other XBOX versions. I am not looking for profit just wish to connect with other Linux users. If you have any questions or are a Linux XBOX coder with insights or ideas please let me know. My e-mail is samtron@loading-zone.net w00t! NOTE: If you wish to "buy" a copy please e-mail me back so when it goes for sale (if ever) you can be contacted. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From josh at trutwins.homeip.net Thu Oct 9 13:51:10 2003 From: josh at trutwins.homeip.net (Josh Trutwin) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Legal XBOX Linux! In-Reply-To: <1065725194.3f85ad0ac4401@webmail.loading-zone.net> References: <1065725194.3f85ad0ac4401@webmail.loading-zone.net> Message-ID: <20031009134456.0000468a.josh@trutwins.homeip.net> Same here (Linux Lover to the core). Does this still work with the newest versions of the XBox? I though Micro$oft made a change that wouldn't allow Linux to be installed on an XBox. I'm thinking of doing this myself in my copious free time! I cannot think of a way to better stick it to Bill than by using his console as an apache server! Josh On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:46:34 -0500 Samtron@loading-zone.net wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Michael Demopoulos and I am a Linux Lover to the core. I am also an > avid gamer. I got Linux running on my modded XBOX but last night I took a > bootable Linux disk and encoded it to XBOX game type and I now have a working > bootable XBOX Linux that is 100% LEGAL and does not void the warranty of the > XBOX. It does not need a MOD chip or any physical changes. > > I am considering selling this online (Linux is free but the cost of the CD-RW > and shipping only) I also wanted a place to post how I did this online or have > a test group to test other XBOX versions. I am not looking for profit just wish > to connect with other Linux users. > > If you have any questions or are a Linux XBOX coder with insights or ideas > please let me know. > > My e-mail is samtron@loading-zone.net > > > w00t! > > NOTE: If you wish to "buy" a copy please e-mail me back so when it goes for > sale (if ever) you can be contacted. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel > _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From Samtron at loading-zone.net Thu Oct 9 17:28:12 2003 From: Samtron at loading-zone.net (Samtron@loading-zone.net) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Response: RE: Legal XBOX Linux! Message-ID: <1065738623.3f85e17f713e4@webmail.loading-zone.net> To answer your question: As far as I can tell yesit works on all versions of the XBOX. Keep in mind I don't have a huge XBOX supply so my testing is small. And yes they did release a new XBOX version but that was broken (by non-legal ways in 15 1/2 hours) Mike Quoting Josh: "Same here (Linux Lover to the core). Does this still work with the newest versions of the XBox? I though Micro$oft made a change that wouldn't allow Linux to be installed on an XBox. I'm thinking of doing this myself in my copious free time! I cannot think of a way to better stick it to Bill than by using his console as an apache server! Josh" Quoting S@MTRON On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:46:34 -0500 Samtron@loading-zone.net wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Michael Demopoulos and I am a Linux Lover to the core. I am also an > avid gamer. I got Linux running on my modded XBOX but last night I took a > bootable Linux disk and encoded it to XBOX game type and I now have a working > bootable XBOX Linux that is 100% LEGAL and does not void the warranty of the > XBOX. It does not need a MOD chip or any physical changes. > > I am considering selling this online (Linux is free but the cost of the CD- RW > and shipping only) I also wanted a place to post how I did this online or have > a test group to test other XBOX versions. I am not looking for profit just wish > to connect with other Linux users. > > If you have any questions or are a Linux XBOX coder with insights or ideas > please let me know. > > My e-mail is samtron@loading-zone.net > > > w00t! > > NOTE: If you wish to "buy" a copy please e-mail me back so when it goes for > sale (if ever) you can be contacted. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel > _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From erick at nixbrain.com Thu Oct 16 14:02:01 2003 From: erick at nixbrain.com (Erick Stohr) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] index.html in war Message-ID: <3F8EEA47.4020002@nixbrain.com> Hello, I haven't touched Java in about 2 years and am just starting a web app using it. I am trying to deploy the war under Tomcat 4.1.18 and I cannot seem to get my index.html to show up or any jsp's, the main servlet maps and shows up fine. directory structure is : jar -cvf mywebapp.war *.html jsp/ WEB-INF/ index.html jsp/*.jsp WEB-INF/*,etc using http://localhost:8080/mywebapp to try and view it I have restarted Tomcat, each time I drop the war into /webapps/. I am not sure what I am missing and any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Erick Stohr Burnsville, MN 612-554-8287 erick@enrwebdev.com erick@nixbrain.com _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From erick at nixbrain.com Thu Oct 16 14:21:01 2003 From: erick at nixbrain.com (Erick Stohr) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] index.html in war In-Reply-To: <3F8EEA47.4020002@nixbrain.com> References: <3F8EEA47.4020002@nixbrain.com> Message-ID: <3F8EEE9D.9050906@nixbrain.com> Erick Stohr wrote: > Hello, > > I haven't touched Java in about 2 years and am just starting a web app > using it. I am trying to deploy the war under Tomcat 4.1.18 and I cannot > seem to get my index.html to show up or any jsp's, the main servlet maps > and shows up fine. > > directory structure is : > > jar -cvf mywebapp.war *.html jsp/ WEB-INF/ > > index.html > jsp/*.jsp > WEB-INF/*,etc > > using http://localhost:8080/mywebapp to try and view it > > I have restarted Tomcat, each time I drop the war into /webapps/. I am > not sure what I am missing and any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance. i found the answer, needed to delete the directory structure it created from my first war without the *.html. -- Erick Stohr Burnsville, MN 612-554-8287 erick@enrwebdev.com erick@nixbrain.com _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From dutchman_mn at charter.net Thu Oct 16 15:46:01 2003 From: dutchman_mn at charter.net (Perry Hoekstra) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question Message-ID: Hello all: I have a class call Foo that needs to read a properties file. Foo is in a jar file called foo.jar. foo.jar is in an *.ear file called uberfoo.ear. The foo.properties file is also in the uberfoo.ear. I am having difficulties getting Foo to "see" the foo.properties file due to class loader issues. Does anyone know of a way for Foo to see the properties file event though it is not in the foo.jar file? Perry Hoekstra _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Thu Oct 16 18:04:01 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:06 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've had this senario working before within WebSphere and possibly WebLogic also; albeit in a WAR file. What are the exact locations of foo.jar and foo.properties? Are you familiar with the class loaders demystified article on the IBM site? I can't remember the URL at the moment. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Perry Hoekstra > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:44 PM > To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question > > > Hello all: > > I have a class call Foo that needs to read a properties > file. Foo is in a jar file called foo.jar. foo.jar is in > an *.ear file called uberfoo.ear. The foo.properties file > is also in the uberfoo.ear. > > I am having difficulties getting Foo to "see" the > foo.properties file due to class loader issues. Does > anyone know of a way for Foo to see the properties file > event though it is not in the foo.jar file? > > Perry Hoekstra > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Thu Oct 16 18:08:01 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ok, I'm a booberhead for not including this information in my first post. Here is the URL to the article I mentioned. http://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0112_deboer/deboer.h tml Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Perry Hoekstra > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:44 PM > To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question > > > Hello all: > > I have a class call Foo that needs to read a properties > file. Foo is in a jar file called foo.jar. foo.jar is in > an *.ear file called uberfoo.ear. The foo.properties file > is also in the uberfoo.ear. > > I am having difficulties getting Foo to "see" the > foo.properties file due to class loader issues. Does > anyone know of a way for Foo to see the properties file > event though it is not in the foo.jar file? > > Perry Hoekstra > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From dutchman_mn at charter.net Thu Oct 16 21:11:00 2003 From: dutchman_mn at charter.net (Perry Hoekstra) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F8F5D41.3050509@charter.net> Mike Bresnahan wrote: >Ok, I'm a booberhead for not including this information in my first post. >Here is the URL to the article I mentioned. > >http://www7b.software.ibm.com/wsdd/library/techarticles/0112_deboer/deboer.h >tml > >Mike > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org >>[mailto:tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Perry Hoekstra >>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:44 PM >>To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org >>Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question >> >> >>Hello all: >> >>I have a class call Foo that needs to read a properties >>file. Foo is in a jar file called foo.jar. foo.jar is in >>an *.ear file called uberfoo.ear. The foo.properties file >>is also in the uberfoo.ear. >> >>I am having difficulties getting Foo to "see" the >>foo.properties file due to class loader issues. Does >>anyone know of a way for Foo to see the properties file >>event though it is not in the foo.jar file? >> >>Perry Hoekstra >> Yes, BEA also has published a classloader document which I have looked at numerous times. I spent some time looking at Log4J's source code (ie. their Loader class) because it successfully solves this issue. The log4j.jar file can access the log4j.properties file. Perry Hoekstra _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From dutchman_mn at charter.net Thu Oct 16 21:13:00 2003 From: dutchman_mn at charter.net (Perry Hoekstra) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F8F5DB8.9070406@charter.net> Mike Bresnahan wrote: >I've had this senario working before within WebSphere and possibly WebLogic >also; albeit in a WAR file. What are the exact locations of foo.jar and >foo.properties? Are you familiar with the class loaders demystified article >on the IBM site? I can't remember the URL at the moment. > > Both foo.jar and foo.properties are contained in an *.ear file. It is just that foo.properties is not in the foo.jar file. I need to look to see if it is a WebLogic issue. Perry Hoekstra _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Thu Oct 16 23:55:01 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: <3F8F5DB8.9070406@charter.net> Message-ID: > Both foo.jar and foo.properties are contained in an *.ear file. It is > just that foo.properties is not in the foo.jar file. I need to look to > see if it is a WebLogic issue. What directories within the EAR file are the files? Mike _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Fri Oct 17 11:00:02 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: <3F8FF8C7.3050305@charter.net> Message-ID: > Root or top directory. I do not believe that the root directory of the EAR is in the classpath. You can add a JAR file to the classpath of dependent modules by editing their manifest files, but I don't think you can add property files this way. You can solve your problem by putting the properties file inside a JAR file and adding the JAR file to the classpath via manifest entries. I am assuming you are searching for the properties file on the classpath. Is this assumption true? If so, which function are you using to do the search. They don't all work the same and the behavior varies if the EAR is expanded or not expanded. Mike _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Fri Oct 17 11:08:01 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oh, does more than one module need access to foo.jar? If not, put foo.jar and foo.properties in the module that needs it and your life will be easier. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bresnahan > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:00 AM > To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > Subject: RE: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question > > > > Root or top directory. > > I do not believe that the root directory of the EAR is in the classpath. > You can add a JAR file to the classpath of dependent modules by editing > their manifest files, but I don't think you can add property > files this way. > You can solve your problem by putting the properties file inside > a JAR file > and adding the JAR file to the classpath via manifest entries. > > I am assuming you are searching for the properties file on the classpath. > Is this assumption true? If so, which function are you using to do the > search. They don't all work the same and the behavior varies if > the EAR is > expanded or not expanded. > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From dutchman_mn at charter.net Mon Oct 20 09:46:14 2003 From: dutchman_mn at charter.net (Perry Hoekstra) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question Message-ID: > Oh, does more than one module need access to foo.jar? > If not, put foo.jar and foo.properties in the module that > needs it and your life will be easier. No, multiple modules do not need access to foo.jar. However, think of foo.jar as a third-party *.jar file. The application that uses the third-party *.jar file must provide a foo.properties file. My problem has been getting the class in the third-party *.jar file to load the foo.properties file I have provided. > I am assuming you are searching for the properties file > on the classpath. Is this assumption true? If so, which > function are you using to do the search. They don't all > work the same and the behavior varies if the EAR is > expanded or not expanded. Yes, and this is the method I am using: FooFactoryClass.class.getResourceAsStream("foo.properties"); WebLogic does not expand the EAR file. Perry Hoekstra _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Mon Oct 20 18:17:01 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If my memory serves me correctly, that function does not work in WebLogic when the EAR is not expanded. Please chime in, those of you who are using WebLogic currently. To search for things in the classpath you need to expand the EAR or use ServletContext.getResourceAsStream(). However, I'm still not sure the root directory of an EAR is in the class path. By the way, expanding the EAR is a manual process with WebLogic, as far as I know. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-devel-admin@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of Perry Hoekstra > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:45 AM > To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > Subject: Re: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Java properties file question > > > > Oh, does more than one module need access to foo.jar? > > If not, put foo.jar and foo.properties in the module that > > needs it and your life will be easier. > > No, multiple modules do not need access to foo.jar. > However, think of foo.jar as a third-party *.jar file. > The application that uses the third-party *.jar file must > provide a foo.properties file. My problem has been > getting the class in the third-party *.jar file to load > the foo.properties file I have provided. > > > I am assuming you are searching for the properties file > > on the classpath. Is this assumption true? If so, which > > function are you using to do the search. They don't all > > work the same and the behavior varies if the EAR is > > expanded or not expanded. > > Yes, and this is the method I am using: > > FooFactoryClass.class.getResourceAsStream("foo.properties"); > > WebLogic does not expand the EAR file. > > Perry Hoekstra _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From aravind at ece.umn.edu Thu Oct 30 11:08:20 2003 From: aravind at ece.umn.edu (Aravindan Raghuveer) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Refresh Meta Tags and Cookies. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I am developing a HTTP client and I use Jakarta Tomcat. I read on the web that I can use a statement like [see below] to set a cookie on the client. How does the server pass information like session-id to be stored in the cookie without explicitly using any set-cookie,[key,value] pairs ? Rather how do I trap the session-ids in my client C++ program that the browser would have actually used to create the cookie ? Any help would be appreciated. I am not sure if posting Linux Web Development questions is a appropriate use of this mailing list. Sorry if it is not. Thanks in advance. Regards, -Aravind. Aravindan Raghuveer Graduate Student Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering University of Minnesota Minneapolis, MN _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From chewie at wookimus.net Thu Oct 30 11:28:17 2003 From: chewie at wookimus.net (Chad Walstrom) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Refresh Meta Tags and Cookies. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20031030172817.GE17821@wookimus.net> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From hpenner at cbca.com Thu Oct 30 11:40:04 2003 From: hpenner at cbca.com (Harry Penner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Refresh Meta Tags and Cookies. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1067535604.1001.6.camel@localhost> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:08, Aravindan Raghuveer wrote: > read on the web that I can use a statement like [see below] to set a > cookie on the client. > > > > How does the server pass information like session-id to be stored in the AFAIK this has nothing to do with sessions. It just redirects the client to example.com after 1 seconds. Think 302. > I am not sure if posting Linux Web Development questions is a appropriate > use of this mailing list. Sorry if it is not. You should probably join the tcWebDev list. http://www.tcwebdev.org/ -hp3 _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Thu Oct 30 12:29:24 2003 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:07 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Refresh Meta Tags and Cookies. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You could look at the source code of HttpClient. http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: tclug-devel-bounces+mbresnah=visi.com@mn-linux.org > [mailto:tclug-devel-bounces+mbresnah=visi.com@mn-linux.org]On Behalf Of > Aravindan Raghuveer > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:08 AM > To: tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Refresh Meta Tags and Cookies. > > > Hello, > I am developing a HTTP client and I use Jakarta > Tomcat. I > read on the web that I can use a statement like [see below] to set a > cookie on the client. > > > > How does the server pass information like session-id to be stored in the > cookie without explicitly using any set-cookie,[key,value] pairs ? > > Rather how do I trap the session-ids in my client C++ program that the > browser would have actually used to create the cookie ? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > I am not sure if posting Linux Web Development questions is a appropriate > use of this mailing list. Sorry if it is not. > > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > -Aravind. > > > > Aravindan Raghuveer > Graduate Student > Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering > University of Minnesota > Minneapolis, MN > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel _______________________________________________ tclug-devel mailing list tclug-devel@mn-linux.org https://mailman.real-time.com/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel