From tanner at real-time.com Mon Dec 3 02:34:21 2001 From: tanner at real-time.com (Bob Tanner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] JBoss users? Message-ID: <20011203023421.E13105@real-time.com> Any JBoss users on the list? I see it has hit the 100% Active ranking this week on sourceforge and I was wondering if someone would care to post a little bit about it. -- Minneapolis St. Paul Twin Cities MN | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.mn-linux.org Minnesota Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 From dutchman at uswest.net Mon Dec 3 03:47:22 2001 From: dutchman at uswest.net (Perry Hoekstra) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] JBoss users? References: <20011203023421.E13105@real-time.com> Message-ID: <3C0B4A2A.7E883A54@uswest.net> Bob Tanner wrote: > Any JBoss users on the list? > > I see it has hit the 100% Active ranking this week on sourceforge and I was > wondering if someone would care to post a little bit about it. > > -- > Minneapolis St. Paul Twin Cities MN | Phone : (952)943-8700 > http://www.mn-linux.org Minnesota Linux | Fax : (952)943-8500 > Key fingerprint = 6C E9 51 4F D5 3E 4C 66 62 A9 10 E5 35 85 39 D9 > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel JBoss was initially the brainchild of two developers, Rickard Oberg and Marc Fluery. Obviously, since then, it has grown but Marc still leads the project and Oberg is lead technologist. Strengths of JBoss: - Only open-source EJB solution (yes, I know about JONAS but I know very few if any who use it). - Modular construction - Heavily based on JMX - Very active development staff - Just came out with JBoss 3.0 supporting EJB 2.0 - Tied in with Tomcat or you can use their front-end stuff Weaknesses of JBoss - No documentation to speak of - Seems to get "rewritten" quite a lot. With JBoss 2.0 and now with 3.0, heavy slant towards JMX. However, I would be nervous about my application server undergoing a lot of change from major version number to major version number. - Up to 3.0, no enterprise features such as clustering, but JBoss has had hot deploy of classes for quite a while. - Monitoring (from a sys admin point of view) is almost non-existent. But I am not terribly impressed with BEA Weblogic's either. I hear IBM Websphere has very good monitoring capabilities. - Performance is a great unknown. Right now, as JBoss is not a J2EE licensee, they do not have access to ECPerf so standardized benchmarks from them will not be forthcoming anytime soon (but what other vendors have published ECPerf benchmarks). I have not used JBoss for a paying gig, so I can't get a good handle on performance. I have heard third-hand, that performance is rather poor. Take that for what it is worth. All in all, however, I would not hesitate to use JBoss as an embedded application server that is the underpinnings of software product I was developing or for a departmental application where my base would be somewhere in the < 50 CONCURRENT user range on a single server (no clustering) in an 8-5 mode. -- Perry Hoekstra E-Commerce Architect Talent Software Services perry.hoekstra@talentemail.com From dmblevins at mediaone.net Mon Dec 3 08:16:54 2001 From: dmblevins at mediaone.net (David Blevins) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] JBoss users? In-Reply-To: <3C0B4A2A.7E883A54@uswest.net> Message-ID: JBoss isn't the only open source EJB solution. OpenEJB, part of the Exolab projects, has been around for two years now. It is an EJB container system only and is not an EJB server, it needs to be plugged into an app server platform. In other words, it is a server plug-in like Apache Tomcat. It's never been popular because it has never been plugged in to any production worthy server platform that we are able to talk about. Hopefully soon we can make some announcements. OpenEJB was founded by Richard Monson-Haefel (author of the O'Reilly EJB book) and myself this month, two years ago. We have full EJB 1.1 compliance at the moment and are working on 2.0. The website, openejb.exolab.org, is very out of date at the moment. We are working to get that updated hopefully this week. The mailing list is were all the action happens anyway, that's where you'll find the most current information. As mentioned, OpenEJB is not an out-of-the-box server, so there isn't much for you unless you are looking to embed an EJB container into your platform. Regardless, you'll be hearing quite a bit more about OpenEJB in the future. David Blevins --- OpenEJB - EJB Container System www.openejb.org ftp.exolab.org/pub/openejb/ > JBoss was initially the brainchild of two developers, Rickard > Oberg and Marc > Fluery. Obviously, since then, it has grown but Marc still leads > the project > and Oberg is lead technologist. > > Strengths of JBoss: > > - Only open-source EJB solution (yes, I know about JONAS but I > know very few if > any who use it). > - Modular construction > - Heavily based on JMX > - Very active development staff > - Just came out with JBoss 3.0 supporting EJB 2.0 > - Tied in with Tomcat or you can use their front-end stuff > > Weaknesses of JBoss > > - No documentation to speak of > - Seems to get "rewritten" quite a lot. With JBoss 2.0 and now > with 3.0, heavy > slant towards JMX. However, I would be nervous about my > application server > undergoing a lot of change from major version number to major > version number. > - Up to 3.0, no enterprise features such as clustering, but JBoss > has had hot > deploy of classes for quite a while. > - Monitoring (from a sys admin point of view) is almost > non-existent. But I am > not terribly impressed with BEA Weblogic's either. I hear IBM > Websphere has > very good monitoring capabilities. > - Performance is a great unknown. Right now, as JBoss is not a > J2EE licensee, > they do not have access to ECPerf so standardized benchmarks from > them will not > be forthcoming anytime soon (but what other vendors have published ECPerf > benchmarks). I have not used JBoss for a paying gig, so I can't > get a good > handle on performance. I have heard third-hand, that performance > is rather > poor. Take that for what it is worth. > > All in all, however, I would not hesitate to use JBoss as an embedded > application server that is the underpinnings of software product I was > developing or for a departmental application where my base would > be somewhere > in the < 50 CONCURRENT user range on a single server (no > clustering) in an 8-5 > mode. > > -- > Perry Hoekstra > E-Commerce Architect > Talent Software Services > perry.hoekstra@talentemail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From g-swan at maroon.tc.umn.edu Mon Dec 3 09:16:15 2001 From: g-swan at maroon.tc.umn.edu (George Swan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Pointers on CJK regex Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20011203091615.009fe3e0@g-swan.email.umn.edu> I don't expect that there will be an answer, but just in case there is someone on the list.... I'm looking for advice with CJK-Unicode development which I need for a search engine which involves regex matching. What I'm working with can be seen at: http://staff-test.lib.umn.edu/cdm/eal/ealfinder.phtml (...at least when the server is up.) Presently it's a demo site. In order to view, you'll need either 1) NJStar, or 2) one of the more recent browsers which can easily recognize and present HTML-ized unicode. I've developed the form and results page (as far as it goes) for the East Asian Library here on campus using php/mySQL. The challenge I'm facing now has to do with 1) finding a means to recognize one of the 3 major encodings for Chinese characters which a user might enter in the text box, and then 2) converting these to unicode so that I can regex the string against the database of citations. Though I've developed this using php/mySQL, I'm at the limits of my skill, and if I can establish that there is a java method for accomplishing these two tasks, I'm going to hand over the project to one of our people who is more familiar with java than I am, on the good faith that they will be able to explore the options and complete the project more easily than I can. SOOOOO my question is: are there well known java objects (ie part of SDK?) which will handle these two tasks? -- ie, encoding detection, and encoding conversion of Chinese and Japanese multibyte characters? BACKGROUND: php does have some experimental "multibyte string functions" but these currently will only handle Japanese. On the Chinese side of things, I've found a detection script (written in perl) and something written in java, but these won't handle Japanese. If there is one solution for both, I'd sure like to know about it. gs ****************************************** George Swan Collection Development Support Unit VOICE: (612) 624-5860 Room 170B, Wilson Library FAX: (612) 626-9353 University of Minnesota Libraries g-swan@tc.umn.edu 309 19th Avenue South cdm-web@tc.umn.edu Minneapolis, MN 55455 colldev@tc.umn.edu USA http://staff.lib.umn.edu/cdm/ From scanman at scanman.mine.nu Tue Dec 4 10:06:26 2001 From: scanman at scanman.mine.nu (ScanMan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Can't subscribe to tclug Message-ID: <200112041606.fB4G6Ql29407@proxy.localhost.localdomain> When I try to subscribe to the main tclug mailing list, the list administrator refuses my request with no reason given. I can subscribe to tclug-devel and tclug-announce just fine. Does someone have a grudge against me or something? From mbresnah at visi.com Sat Dec 15 18:46:23 2001 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh Message-ID: I've got CVS access to a project on sourceforge and I'm using CVS in client-server mode for the first time. Sourceforge uses ssh in place of rsh when using CVS, i.e. export CVS_RSH=ssh. Every time I issue a CVS command I get prompted for a password. Is there some way I can make ssh remember my password? Mike From dave at droyer.org Sat Dec 15 17:11:59 2001 From: dave at droyer.org (Dave Royer) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:29 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1008457919.1782.20.camel@merlin> I'm not sure if sourceforge supports it or not, but if they do, here's how you would do it: 1. Run ssh-keygen on the client. This will create a public/private key pair. If you don't want to enter a password, don't give one when you create the key pair. 2. Copy the public key (~/.ssh/identity.pub) to the sf server and put it in the file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. That's it. If sf supports RSA authentication, you should not be prompted for a password. (You can double check this by running ssh with the -v option.) Dave -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin On Sat, 2001-12-15 at 18:46, Mike Bresnahan wrote: > I've got CVS access to a project on sourceforge and I'm using CVS in > client-server mode for the first time. Sourceforge uses ssh in place of rsh > when using CVS, i.e. export CVS_RSH=ssh. Every time I issue a CVS command I > get prompted for a password. Is there some way I can make ssh remember my > password? > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > tclug-devel mailing list > tclug-devel@mn-linux.org > https://mailman.mn-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/tclug-devel From mbresnah at visi.com Sun Dec 16 02:23:06 2001 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:30 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh In-Reply-To: <1008457919.1782.20.camel@merlin> Message-ID: > I'm not sure if sourceforge supports it or not, but if they do, here's > how you would do it: [...] I don't have general shell access on the sourceforge server. I have some sort of restricted shell that only allows me to use cvs. Mike From mwagner at mysql.com Sun Dec 16 05:09:29 2001 From: mwagner at mysql.com (Matt Wagner) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:30 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh In-Reply-To: References: <1008457919.1782.20.camel@merlin> Message-ID: <15388.33001.62153.936261@cash.mwagner.org> Mike Bresnahan writes: > > I'm not sure if sourceforge supports it or not, but if they do, here's > > how you would do it: > [...] > > I don't have general shell access on the sourceforge server. I have some > sort of restricted shell that only allows me to use cvs. Mike, I am able to do what Dave recommended -- so you should be able to also. All I do is 'ssh -C mwagner@mysql.sourceforge.net'. This gives me access to a machine named 'usw-pr-shell2'. There I have my .ssh/ directory with authorized_keys file in it. So try changing 'mysql.sourceforge.net' to your project (of course), and give it a try. Note that Dave meant that you should run 'ssh-keygen' on your local workstation if you don't already have a '.ssh/identity.pub' on your workstation. After reading the SF Site Docs, it looks as though they even have some official system of supporting this (which I have never dealt with): http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=761&group_id=1 Which SourceForge.net hosts support the use of SSH keys? SourceForge.net project shell servers, CVS servers and the compile farm support the use of SSH. At this time, only the project shell and CVS servers support the use of SSH keys officially. It should be noted that all services which require the use of SSH are provided solely to those users who are members of active development projects hosted on SourceForge.net. If you are not a member of an active development project on SourceForge.net, this document does not apply to you (you do not have access to the compile farm, project shell servers, or write access to project CVS servers). The next section after this deals with how you can upload your 'identity.pub' into their SSH Key system. Good luck. Matt -- For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/ __ ___ ___ ____ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / Mr. Matt Wagner / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Herr Direktor /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Hopkins, Minnesota USA <___/ www.mysql.com From mbresnah at visi.com Sun Dec 16 21:25:23 2001 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:30 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh In-Reply-To: <15388.33001.62153.936261@cash.mwagner.org> Message-ID: I didn't know about the shell account. I was trying to connect to cvs.sourceforge.net. I've created my RSA keys and copied the public key to nebuladevice.sourceforge.net, but I'm still prompted for a password. I also tried putting my private key in id_rsa, but to no avail. ~/.ssh: ssh -v gudujarlson@nebuladevice.sourceforge.net OpenSSH_2.9.9p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f debug1: Seeding random number generator debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted. debug1: restore_uid debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 500 geteuid 500 anon 1 debug1: Connecting to nebuladevice.sourceforge.net [216.136.171.201] port 22. debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 500/513 (e=500) debug1: restore_uid debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 500/513 (e=500) debug1: restore_uid debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/Administrator/.ssh/identity type 0 debug1: identity file /home/Administrator/.ssh/id_rsa type -1 debug1: identity file /home/Administrator/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.9p2 debug1: match: OpenSSH_2.9p2 pat ^OpenSSH Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_2.9.9p2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server->client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client->server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 128/256 debug1: bits set: 1009/2049 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'nebuladevice.sourceforge.net' is known and matches the DSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/Administrator/.ssh/known_hosts:3 debug1: bits set: 1029/2049 debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct debug1: kex_derive_keys debug1: newkeys: mode 1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: newkeys: mode 0 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: done: ssh_kex2. debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: next auth method to try is publickey debug1: try privkey: /home/Administrator/.ssh/id_rsa debug1: try privkey: /home/Administrator/.ssh/id_dsa debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive debug1: next auth method to try is password gudujarlson@nebuladevice.sourceforge.net's password: From mbresnah at visi.com Mon Dec 17 17:57:51 2001 From: mbresnah at visi.com (Mike Bresnahan) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:30 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] Search sourceforge mailing list archives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is there a way to search sourceforge mailing list archives? I don't see any search form. Mike From chewie at wookimus.net Thu Dec 20 10:25:37 2001 From: chewie at wookimus.net (Chad C. Walstrom) Date: Mon Jan 17 14:29:30 2005 Subject: [TCLUG-DEVEL] client-server CVS and ssh In-Reply-To: References: <15388.33001.62153.936261@cash.mwagner.org> Message-ID: <20011220162537.GB29127@wookimus.net> On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 07:25:23PM -0800, Mike Bresnahan wrote: > I didn't know about the shell account. I was trying to connect to > cvs.sourceforge.net. I've created my RSA keys and copied the public key to > nebuladevice.sourceforge.net, but I'm still prompted for a password. I also > tried putting my private key in id_rsa, but to no avail. > > ~/.ssh: ssh -v gudujarlson@nebuladevice.sourceforge.net SourceForge is likely using ssh protocol 2, not one. You can use your protocol 1 key by specifying '-1' as an option to ssh. Otherwise, and highly recommended, you need to create an RSA or DSA key w/ bash$ ssh-keygen -t rsa #... Make sure you enter a password for all of your identities. It wouldn't be very good if someone hacked into your box and used your ssh identities to hack into other machines w/o having to crack your identity password. If you want to get prompted for your RSA password only once, use ssh-add(8). bash$ ssh-add .ssh/id_rsa #... -- Chad Walstrom | a.k.a. ^chewie http://www.wookimus.net/ | s.k.a. gunnarr Get my public key, ICQ#, etc. $(mailx -s 'get info' chewie@wookimus.net) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://shadowknight.real-time.com/pipermail/tclug-devel/attachments/20011220/e9d9a8d0/attachment.pgp